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Message Boards => General Discussion => Topic started by: elizabeth.conder on June 08, 2017, 12:00:32 AM
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I am looking into showing at least one of my minis in a local show this August. I still haven't decided for sure which horse or horses. I have been looking into it a lot lately but I was hoping that someone here could point me to some good articles or some tips. I am hoping to attend a different show in Glen Rose in a few weeks. This would be my first show so I am more than willing to admit I have a great deal to learn. So anything is helpful! Thank You!!!
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This will be so much fun for you and please take lots of photos for us to see :)
The first piece of advice ill offer is "Have fun"
I cant help you with what the judges will be looking for but I can help you with a few other things.
Plan ahead as much as you can, Pack the float, your tack trunk a few days before because there will be things you think of at the last min you will want to add. Add a few comfy chairs as there is always a lot of waiting around in between events. Water bucket , hay, grain etc. Lunch/Drinks for yourself and helpers. ( Helpers will be a great help to you on the day )
You can never have enough towels , so pack plenty. Dont forget First aid supplies just in case you need them.
What sort of classes are you thinking of going in ?
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This will be so much fun for you and please take lots of photos for us to see :)
The first piece of advice ill offer is "Have fun"
I cant help you with what the judges will be looking for but I can help you with a few other things.
Plan ahead as much as you can, Pack the float, your tack trunk a few days before because there will be things you think of at the last min you will want to add. Add a few comfy chairs as there is always a lot of waiting around in between events. Water bucket , hay, grain etc. Lunch/Drinks for yourself and helpers. ( Helpers will be a great help to you on the day )
You can never have enough towels , so pack plenty. Dont forget First aid supplies just in case you need them.
What sort of classes are you thinking of going in ?
Thank you.
I do not know which specific sections yet because they have not been published, but all I am thinking halter. I am pretty sure I want to show my stallion but I am thinking one of my mares as well, just not sure which one yet.
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Your bays have that beautiful rich color! Very nice for sure!
Halter is a good class to start in. Lots of practice for getting them to stand, ears perked and attentive to you. You want your stallion to be good around the others, so extra good manners.
I think I have a showing book around here somewhere. I always had a trainer show my horses, since I usually had 3 out at the same time -- one on the east coast showing AMHA, one in the Midwest showing AMHR, and then if $$ permitted, a third out west. Since I was running a herd of about 45, with 15 stallions here at home, I couldn't get around much to show by myself. Had too many at home hungry, and too many foals being born during show season. But I'll look for the book and send to you if I can find it.
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Here Stallions or colts have to wear a red ribbon in their tail at shows just to let others know, not sure if its the case there or not.
Agree with Halter classes to start in. :)
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Not the rule here. But sometimes those stallion classes get a bit interesting.
I had one trainer that showed my palomino fewspot stallion, who had him out just one season AMHR, and made him look like a white horse with all the makeup he used on him. I hate that. I prefer the more natural look. He made several championships and scored 6th in all National All-Stars in one season, but when I got the pictures, I couldn't believe he blackened his hooves, and made almost all his appaloosa characteristics hidden except for his muzzle. Plus, he trained him to be a "bad boy" in the stall and walking to the ring -- lots of rearing and pawing, and then a quick tug on the lead rope, and he absolutely stood in perfect stance with no movement and no attention to the other stallions. Said he like the "pizzazz" a stallion had. Not me, I just like a well-mannered stallion.
At home he was much better but usually had that "perked up" look with those pricked ears. He was a good boy once I got him home from the trainer. He was a cute baby too -- as far as fewspots go, with those long legs I so like. Hard to believe how appaloosas change.
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Wow :)
He is beautiful Diane , Look at those long legs. He is stunning with out all the makeup.
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This was my other stallion I had showing at the same time, and had him go to Nationals, instead of the fewspot, and he placed 3rd in "color" class in AMHA Nationals against a very well known appaloosa stallion, Lost Spoke's Winter Dreamcatcher ("Catch") who was down-right beautiful. But I was proud of my boy!
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Is the stallion in your profile Pic? He is amazing !!
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Thus are absolutely stunning!!! I've heard all sorts of things about stallions in the show ring. That is why I am 'pretty sure' I want to show him. He is pretty full of himself, but he has improved significantly in the last month.
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Thank you, Elizabeth. I've had a few mares shown, too, that I'll share.
The first is "Classy Cat" at the AMHA Worlds, a Top Cat daughter, I think the only appaloosa he produced, but not sure. And "Ginger" and "Bootylicious" I loved them.
No, Ryan, the palomino few-spot was "Ticket" and the bay leopard was "Drum Roll Please". The horse in my profile is a buckskin leopard named "Spotty".
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Diane, my Spotty is a grandson of Top Cat (Topper is a Top Cat son).
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Well, watch and take notes when you go to the Glenrose Show. If it's put on by the same folks that put on a couple of big ones when we had ours out for 2012 and 2013, then you can also ask ?s and they are a friendly group of people that are willing to help out.
If Diane doesn't find the book she's talking about, Pat Elder did one on training for halter that I feel is priceless. It's not expensive either.
This is the Amazon link. Some of the Mini Tack stores online carry it as well. https://www.amazon.com/Training-Showing-Miniature-Halter-Classes/dp/1887932631/ref=la_B001K7TSM8_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1497040352&sr=1-1
There may also be tack vendors at the show - but I don't know if they do that for the smaller ones or not.
Go to I AM Ranch - their videos are pretty awesome, but I can't remember if they have halter training tips or not. Go to You Tube and search mini horse training in halter, etc.
http://www.theminiaturehorse.com/article/haltertraining.htm
There were a few trainers that used to have info on their websites - but I haven't seen those around lately. One was Ten-L out of ?KY?. There are a few others.
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When I went to the Glen Rose show in Oct 2012, my girlfriend and I got an extra stall and we stayed in that one. Did find out (after the fact) that they really didn't (at that time) have shower facilities there. We did go to the horse wash stalls (indoors as it had turned COLD) and took turns taking a shower while watching out for wanderers, LOL (we were two "fluffy" women in our 50s)! We slept on cots, had food in a cooler, had my Nutri-Bullet (drink maker - from greens/fruits etc) and a coffee pot. We cooked on a Coleman Stove and also ended up going out to eat since we couldnt really set it up outside (wasn't prepared for the extreme drop in temps!).
Because we had come from so far away (North Carolina), we had feed and hay for our ponies, extra halters (not showing, so no show gear), my wagon and 2 sets of harness. Did end up showing in 3 driving classes after got the mini folks to help me fix several problems with hitching the pair to my new wagon.
A TX trainer had our stallion and a mare that were shown at that show in halter - her equipment was used for prep and caring for those two and we weren't REAL close to her... We were there for the Spooktacular show - many of the trainers had LOTS of Halloween decorations including our trainer (she had a mini haunted house to walk thru on her aisle at night). I will say that it was fun.
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We have had many different show experiences, but breed shows are a whole different "monster", LOL. Like Diane, I couldn't get away, so in 2012 I had 4 ponies out with trainers and in 2013 we had 3 out. They were yearlings in 2012 and 2 yr olds in 2013, so only shown in halter. I didn't see them for their daily handling and liked some of what I saw and didn't like other things (with the trainers).
Yes, do up lists for supplies - for you, for the trk/trlr, for the horses. If you want to save $$, take some of your own food. IF you have $$, supporting the club by purchasing at concession stand they have (make sure they do) is great.
My headache (1st sinus cold since bronchitis cleared up, both YEA and OMG terrible) is returning. I'm sure there are many things I've forgotten. It's always better to have extra supplies and not need them than to not have them when you DO need them.
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Well, watch and take notes when you go to the Glenrose Show. If it's put on by the same folks that put on a couple of big ones when we had ours out for 2012 and 2013, then you can also ask ?s and they are a friendly group of people that are willing to help out.
If Diane doesn't find the book she's talking about, Pat Elder did one on training for halter that I feel is priceless. It's not expensive either.
This is the Amazon link. Some of the Mini Tack stores online carry it as well. https://www.amazon.com/Training-Showing-Miniature-Halter-Classes/dp/1887932631/ref=la_B001K7TSM8_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1497040352&sr=1-1
There may also be tack vendors at the show - but I don't know if they do that for the smaller ones or not.
Go to I AM Ranch - their videos are pretty awesome, but I can't remember if they have halter training tips or not. Go to You Tube and search mini horse training in halter, etc.
http://www.theminiaturehorse.com/article/haltertraining.htm
There were a few trainers that used to have info on their websites - but I haven't seen those around lately. One was Ten-L out of ?KY?. There are a few others.
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When I went to the Glen Rose show in Oct 2012, my girlfriend and I got an extra stall and we stayed in that one. Did find out (after the fact) that they really didn't (at that time) have shower facilities there. We did go to the horse wash stalls (indoors as it had turned COLD) and took turns taking a shower while watching out for wanderers, LOL (we were two "fluffy" women in our 50s)! We slept on cots, had food in a cooler, had my Nutri-Bullet (drink maker - from greens/fruits etc) and a coffee pot. We cooked on a Coleman Stove and also ended up going out to eat since we couldnt really set it up outside (wasn't prepared for the extreme drop in temps!).
Because we had come from so far away (North Carolina), we had feed and hay for our ponies, extra halters (not showing, so no show gear), my wagon and 2 sets of harness. Did end up showing in 3 driving classes after got the mini folks to help me fix several problems with hitching the pair to my new wagon.
A TX trainer had our stallion and a mare that were shown at that show in halter - her equipment was used for prep and caring for those two and we weren't REAL close to her... We were there for the Spooktacular show - many of the trainers had LOTS of Halloween decorations including our trainer (she had a mini haunted house to walk thru on her aisle at night). I will say that it was fun.
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We have had many different show experiences, but breed shows are a whole different "monster", LOL. Like Diane, I couldn't get away, so in 2012 I had 4 ponies out with trainers and in 2013 we had 3 out. They were yearlings in 2012 and 2 yr olds in 2013, so only shown in halter. I didn't see them for their daily handling and liked some of what I saw and didn't like other things (with the trainers).
Yes, do up lists for supplies - for you, for the trk/trlr, for the horses. If you want to save $$, take some of your own food. IF you have $$, supporting the club by purchasing at concession stand they have (make sure they do) is great.
My headache (1st sinus cold since bronchitis cleared up, both YEA and OMG terrible) is returning. I'm sure there are many things I've forgotten. It's always better to have extra supplies and not need them than to not have them when you DO need them.
Thank You! I actually have family up there so I have a place to stay etc. That takes care of that problem. One of my Aunts that lives there used to show full-size horses, I think in dressage only. They were AMAZING to watch, and were so well trained. She has given me some tips in keeping them fit.
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How is your show prep coming along ?
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It's coming along. Although the show I was thinking about being is no longer going to work. So I am keeping my eyes open for another one. One thing I'm having trouble with is keeping a horse standing still. They just want to keep moving.
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Hopefully you are able to find one shortly. They sure do like to keep moving. Are you having trouble with getting him to stand "Square" or getting him to stand still in general ?
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Well I haven't even been able to try getting him square yet 😂. He is so fidgety if I try to make him stand still. But we are slowly making progress.
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Does he lunge? If so, perhaps trying asking him to stand still after a bit of a work out on the lunge line (or free lunge), so that he wants to stand as he's a little bit tired and work from there to him standing when ever you ask him.
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I've tried that. I'll lunge him at a good trot for mayby 15 minutes. It's pretty hot here so I want to be careful. I'll give him a couple minutes rest and then lunge again for another 10 minutes and so on and on. He just never gets tired enough. I think I'll just have to make him lunge longer. I just bought a neck sweat that I've been using as well.
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I had a pony years ago that was the absolute worst at standing still , grooming to mounting and riding etc. I used to tie him up for quite long periods of time and he seemed to learn fairly quickly. The only thing he had in front of him was a bucket of water . My riding teacher made me tie him for 6 hours the first time. It works really well after you have lunged a horse or ridden them or even just after grooming.
One of the other reasons I was told to do this is when I used to take my pony out on trails he would try to dump me whenever and whenever he could because he was more interested in what was at the end of a days session "His dinner" .
Horses are very intelligent (well most of them) and they will quickly work their owners routine out. Check out the below link when you can theres some more info on it and when you read it and think about it , it really makes sense.
http://www.horsedigests.com/tying-problems-practice-is-the-key-to-patience-by-clinton-anderson/
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I'll try that for sure. Sounds like another good idea.
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Another thing that helps while lounging is literally changing directions - a lot. If you follow any of Clinton Anderson's teachings -it is one of the tips he passes along. Every couple of strides - switch directions. It is tiring! Then when tired, you can work with posing your horse as he gets "his air back".
Changing directions every few strides can also be hard on a young horse, so you do want to watch out for them. You don't want to injure their legs, but you can certainly do the direction changing in moderation.
Also, you can do direction changes while leading your horse. If he/she gets to jumping around (something that seems to be expected and/or allowed with minis/shetlands/arabians), you can change directions and expect them to be right at your side/shoulder. So he starts jumping excitedly, you turn 90* to the left and stride off. If he doesn't join you, he'll get a pretty sharp reminder - just from your halter and lead line. If you are working with a whip, reach behind you and tap him on either butt or lower legs - encouraging him to stay right up there with you. You can even change directions by doing a complete 180*.
As your horse learns where he is supposed to be, when he gets excited/jumping around - turn into him - moving him away from you in a turn. I have bumped them on the head between the eye/nostril and on the neck between the ear and the withers to encourage the turning away. Soon, they would rather do a "simple" straight line than be constantly jumping around. You could even associate your turn away/turn into with a "growl" or some other easy to remember noise that you make and utilize that at a show as a reminder and start to follow thru w/o then finishing your turn. Hopefully that helps to keep those feet on the ground.
This worked for us with the Shetland Xs that were shown in open shows at halter similar to a Sport Horse or Warm Blood breed (no acting up really allowed and very frowned upon). Foals/weanlings/yearlings were given some leeway, but not a lot - still affected final score which then affected placement in the ribbons.
Since I didn't train our Shetlands that went to the breed shows, I can't tell you how each was trained. But I know that the one stallion with a trainer in TX was allowed to be an idiot and I was most unhappy with that (at the Spooktacular show in TX in Oct 2012 and at Shetland Congress in July 2013). When he came home and still acted that way, we got into several "knock down, drag out" fights - in which he ended up upside down on the ground in a hurry. He soon learned to keep his front hooves on the ground - regardless of who was going by or what was going on. He also spent a lot of time with a "5th leg" (dropped & erect) and several times he had that "leg" tapped quite forcibly with a dressage whip. Not hard enough to injure him (he was a stallion and I did plan on some foals), but sure got his attention!!!! Again, didn't take long and he wasn't running circles around me with "5 legs"... He even learned VERY WELL to keep his mouth shut! He learned that all in less than a month as a breeding 2 yr old stallion - after his short show career. Wish he'd been taught that BEFORE his short show career - he may have done better, who knows? :)
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Wow! That is great!! He can get pretty nippy but it's much better then a few months ago when it was actual biting. I love the Clinton Anderson videos. Som of his techniques are awesome! I actually was considering my stallion a few months ago because he was acting so badly. And I mean BADLY. He has come so far...except with his crazy fidgeting.
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How old is he again? If he's a long yearling or 2 now, you can incorporate ground driving into your training and literally "give him a job". Once going - "drive" him down to your mail box, along your drive way, around the barn. There's nothing anywhere that says he has to wear a bit, you can use a halter. Or get his teeth checked and then introduce a bit and then go on to teach him to ground drive. Lounge and ground drive him over obstacles...
Here's a pic of a weanling 1/2 shetland wearing mini harness. He IS bitted BUT the lines are not attached to the bit but to the halter. It gave him something to do besides run around us fidgeting and screaming for his dam (didn't do that much, tho). He is 5 months old here.
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lounge/drive over a tarp in front of the barn
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crossing a bridge between the barn and the drive way. Leading first as he didn't like the "bridge".
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Jumping the ditch next to the bridge
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and finally crossing the bridge
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Sorry our daughter is barefoot. She often worked with ponies barefoot (still does) when on the ground once she hit "teenagerhood". Unless riding or at an event, getting her in boots became quite difficult...
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Here are the only pics of a yearling that we did the ground driving with. Same daughter, she later had him "hitched" to a laundry basket then had him pull around while picking weeds out of the pasture...
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Well, I caught Sierra going over the bridge. Look, she's wearing her boots!!!
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Back up by the barn. The other yearlings are in the round pen in background.
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He learned to not nip and to stand still. It did take a while. He is still a stallion in these pics, but was gelded later in 2010. Another post showing him almost a year later - still lounging/ground driving w/o a bit...
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Vicki is ground driving him here... Later, she would purchase him and as a 2 yr old she started him to driving. Honestly, he is still a "go-get 'im" pony and standing still is not his forte'. BUT he will stand for short periods, especially when enforced by constant direction changing while working. If working in a field while hitched now, he HAS learned to stand still when he is asked because otherwise he is literally working his now, rather large, bum off!
circle driving -
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Moving into straight ground driving -
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Then around the burn pile and weaving into/thru trees
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Great!!!! He is a little over two now. I have been working him a bit with the harness. He just isn't so sure about it. Long term I want to focus on driving with him. His grand sore won a lot as well as his sire.
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Also, I completely understand your daughter being barefoot. I was always barefoot until I broke so many bones that my mom said I HAD to wear shoes.
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Raising my hand here too! Almost always was barefoot around the horses. Usually only wore clogs if I had to do a lot of pasture work in the hot sun, and since my pastures were just "dry-lot-sand", that sand would get hot, and even calluses could keep my feet cool enough to work long. So, out came my clogs for pasture work. But in the barn and aisles, barefoot I was!
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I have been tieing him up for a while the last couple of days. He has finally learned he is not getting loose. So now I just have to get him to stand still on the lead. I was able to get him clipped and he did much better than usual. He sure feels better too.
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Thats great to hear :) he will get used to it , is his name "Caspian" , I really like that name :)
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That's what I call him instead of his registered name. I went with the Narnia theme for all my horses, so my mares are Dusan, Lucy, and Lilly.
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Great progress for a handsome boy!
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Even try doing it after you have lunged him. Make him stand for a while before he even thinks he is getting dinner.
He will get there , it will just take time , it sounds like he is starting to get the hang of it :)