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Title: High Plains 2020 foals
Post by: elizabeth.conder on June 07, 2020, 01:16:32 PM
As requested here are a few pictures.
Title: Re: High Plains 2020 foals
Post by: elizabeth.conder on June 07, 2020, 01:25:47 PM
High Plains Blazin Onyx

2 months old yesterday and 23 inches. I think I?m going to keep him for now and maybe show him. Can always sell later.
Title: Re: High Plains 2020 foals
Post by: elizabeth.conder on June 07, 2020, 01:45:11 PM
High Plains Olympic Flame

6 weeks old and almost 25 inches.

Planning on selling him. Looks like he?ll outgrow is A papers. He?s been a bit of a trouble maker lately. Decided eating sand is a good idea. He actually coliced last week but is doing well now. However he keeps trying to eat sand and unfortunately in west Texas sand is everywhere. I added minerals, but it really appears he?s doing it more for fun. Caught him running around with a stick and glob of dirt the other day so he?s in the stall with only supervised turnout. Vet said he looks great and doesn?t see any cause for any concern other than to wait for him to outgrow this. He?s super sweet though. And I love his fluffy ears.
Title: Re: High Plains 2020 foals
Post by: Chanda on June 07, 2020, 03:01:58 PM
They are both darling. 
Sorry you are dealing with a sand eater, hopefully he out grows it quickly.
Title: Re: High Plains 2020 foals
Post by: dcwolcott on June 07, 2020, 09:37:32 PM
Onyx is quite a handsome boy with nice movement.  As to your sand eater, I would suggest you purchase some generic psyllium and throw a teaspoon/tablespoon in his grain every day.  Won't hurt him but will keep him from colicing.  Doesn't let the sand bind them up, it just moves the sand through.  I had one once, and although everyone on the farm had psyllium for a whole weekend once a month, my little guy got a small amount every day until he quit.  Just an idea. 

Handsome boys, but I'm leaning toward Onyx for future showing.   ;D
Title: Re: High Plains 2020 foals
Post by: elizabeth.conder on June 07, 2020, 11:54:13 PM
They are both darling. 
Sorry you are dealing with a sand eater, hopefully he out grows it quickly.


Thanks, me too!

Onyx is quite a handsome boy with nice movement.  As to your sand eater, I would suggest you purchase some generic psyllium and throw a teaspoon/tablespoon in his grain every day.  Won't hurt him but will keep him from colicing.  Doesn't let the sand bind them up, it just moves the sand through.  I had one once, and although everyone on the farm had psyllium for a whole weekend once a month, my little guy got a small amount every day until he quit.  Just an idea. 

Handsome boys, but I'm leaning toward Onyx for future showing.   ;D



Thank you! I really do like them both, but Onyx has always been the one that stood out to me. He?s got such great temperament too. Very very respectful and willing. His dam is very good at gently keeping him in line. I think I?m the 9 weeks since he was foaled he?s nipped 2 times total. No kicking either. At least so far. Flame nips a bit but not too much. I actually just started using sand clear. However I bet the generic brand works just as well and is probably cheaper. The vet seems to think he?ll outgrow it before too terribly long. Izzy and I both hope so lol. She is very tired of being stalled so much more than normal.
Title: Re: High Plains 2020 foals
Post by: dcwolcott on June 08, 2020, 02:04:02 PM
Yes, the Sand Clear is fine, but I was running 45 horses at the time, and the big bucket from the Purina Store worked just fine.  Good catch with the Sand Clear!
Title: Re: High Plains 2020 foals
Post by: Silver City Heritage Farm on June 14, 2020, 02:15:25 PM
I agree Onyx should do well in the breed ring.

I however, like the red-head, idiosyncrasies and all!🥰  He's just as balanced, has a strong round rump, and reaches under and drives himself uphill.  I could see myself using him as a CDE/open show driving prospect.  Could you either post or pm his pedigree?  I enjoy seeing the breeding behind what I like.

Both nice foals and a testament to your breeding program.🤗👍👍
Title: Re: High Plains 2020 foals
Post by: elizabeth.conder on June 14, 2020, 05:40:06 PM
I agree Onyx should do well in the breed ring.

I however, like the red-head, idiosyncrasies and all!🥰  He's just as balanced, has a strong round rump, and reaches under and drives himself uphill.  I could see myself using him as a CDE/open show driving prospect.  Could you either post or pm his pedigree?  I enjoy seeing the breeding behind what I like.

Both nice foals and a testament to your breeding program.🤗👍👍


Thank you! I really like them both and if I didn?t think Flame would outgrow his A papers I might wait to make the decision. He?s almost 3 weeks younger than Onyx but has probably 2+ inches on him. At this rate he?ll mature probably in the 35-36 range. He is going grey. White hairs are coming in around his eyes. I actually bought his dam bred but I really like the sire so am a bit disappointed at his size. Sire and dam are both 32 inches. I?ll be happy to post pedigree for both. Onyx is by RHA Redis Loaded Dice and out of Rocky Top Aristocratic Belle Star. Flame is by Aristocratic Regal Red and out of Firewaters Isidora of Olympus.
Title: Re: High Plains 2020 foals
Post by: elizabeth.conder on June 14, 2020, 06:29:36 PM
Both mares were shown but not at world. Dice has to reserves at world and one world champion. Regal red has 3 reserves, one world champion, and one reserve grand
Title: Re: High Plains 2020 foals
Post by: Silver City Heritage Farm on June 15, 2020, 12:44:34 AM
Thank you for sharing those pedigrees, I appreciate it!  (Though the first one is blurry on my cell  I can look it up on allbreed.😉)

Isidora's pedigree is the one I particularly like.  I've seen some similarly bred horses in this area.  They were early bloomers, and projected to mature as B-sized horses.  The two I remember most clearly, the first matured at 33" and the second at 32 3/4".  Perhaps Flame will be like that.  Fingers crossed! 🙏🙏
Title: Re: High Plains 2020 foals
Post by: elizabeth.conder on June 15, 2020, 12:53:11 AM
That?d be amazing if he?d hit the brakes on growth. I?ll add a picture of Izzy and the sire. I love Izzy too! Great personality which is a plus. Izzy is registered as a grullo. But I believe she was black before greying. All foal pictures I?ve seen indicate that, but Flame looks awful red dunish. Izzy is pure white now. Barely any grey left.
Title: Re: High Plains 2020 foals
Post by: elizabeth.conder on June 15, 2020, 12:55:05 AM
I?m not sure why the first pedigree is blurry. It?s my own stallions pedigree. I?ll try again.
Title: Re: High Plains 2020 foals
Post by: elizabeth.conder on June 16, 2020, 12:30:13 AM
Well I?m trying not to get my hopes up, but Flame has gone two consecutive turnouts without eating dirt...praying so hard that he is over this!
Title: Re: High Plains 2020 foals
Post by: dcwolcott on June 16, 2020, 07:11:24 AM
Praying with you!   ;pray ;pray
Title: Re: High Plains 2020 foals
Post by: Silver City Heritage Farm on June 23, 2020, 02:06:52 PM
Thank you for the pedigrees, I do truly enjoy reading them!  I see that many of the horses I like have NFC Egyptian King in them.  It's usually on the top line of the mare.  Funny how that works, isn't it?  For all that many miniature people say that "pedigree doesn't matter, they're a height breed, not a REAL breed", if one likes a specific type there is usually a pedigree consistency to it.

I'm glad your little Flame is getting over the sand eating.  I always used the generic orange psyllium from Walmart.  It was inexpensive and seemed to do the job well.
Title: Re: High Plains 2020 foals
Post by: dcwolcott on June 24, 2020, 02:12:10 PM
Pedigrees DO matter!  Some horses just have such strong genes, they produce a well know type!  Look at Gold Melody Boy lines, or Boones Little Buckeroo -- you can "see" Buckeroo offspring and identify the line almost at birth.  Then there's Hemlock Brooks Egyptian King, Flying W Farms Little Blue Boy, Rowdy and others.

Then there are the Falabellas.  Falabellas are NOT a height breed, they are a real breed.  They are psysiologically different -- with pure Falabellas having seventeen vertebrae instead of eighteen, and one less pair of ribsc. There are other differences and the breed is just that....a breed, not a height registry.  Falabellas have their own registries in several countries and most require DNA testing for purity.

How is Flame doing with the sand eating??  Praying he's given it up!   ;pray ;pray
Title: Re: High Plains 2020 foals
Post by: elizabeth.conder on July 13, 2020, 11:38:03 AM
Been a while since an update. Flame is still sentenced to stall rest since he still finds dirt appetizing. He?s doing better though and not eating it as often or as much. Onyx is doing great, thankfully he does not find dirt tasty. They have both slowed on growth. Onyx is 24.5 inches at 3 months which has him on pace to mature between 30 and 31 inches. Flame is 25.5 inches at 2 months which has him on pace to mature between 33 and 34 inches. Both colts have developed a lot of personality. Flame is more laid back and people friendly. Onyx is friendly but a bit higher strung. Speaking of which I entered Onyx on an online show last month. He took first in weanling and 4th our of 8 in weanling/yearling. There were 2 yearlings almost 2 years old ahead of him and a 6 month old Shetland ahead of him. Trying again this month. I still think I?ll probably keep Onyx for now and sell Flame. I?ll see if I can add some pictures...
Title: Re: High Plains 2020 foals
Post by: elizabeth.conder on July 13, 2020, 11:43:05 AM
Flame first, you can see how many white hairs are coming in around his eyes. Definitely going grey like Izzy

Still working on posing for the camera with Onyx. He likes to stretch way out.
Title: Re: High Plains 2020 foals
Post by: Chanda on July 13, 2020, 03:04:30 PM
They look good, and well-behaved.
Mine are little heathens, but I've left them to their own devices.  With wet weather and running all over, I've not done much with them, yet.
Title: Re: High Plains 2020 foals
Post by: elizabeth.conder on July 13, 2020, 04:27:02 PM
They look good, and well-behaved.
Mine are little heathens, but I've left them to their own devices.  With wet weather and running all over, I've not done much with them, yet.


Thank you! They are pretty well behaved but I can?t take credit for that. Their mamas have been excellent. Izzy is very experienced and Belle is a natural.

That?s totally understandable! I?m sure they?ll learn very quickly.
Title: Re: High Plains 2020 foals
Post by: elizabeth.conder on August 19, 2020, 01:05:53 AM
Onyx is officially 4.5 months and Flame is almost 4 months. Onyx measured 26 inches and Flame 27. So it looks like Flame actually will stay under 34 inches. I haven?t listed him yet. Just haven?t got good pictures. I entered Onyx in a couple online shows and he actually did really well for his age. I?ve talked to a couple trainers and trying to decide if I want to send him away to be trained or do it myself. With what little time I have hahahaha. Anyway here?s a few fun pictures of them. As you can see Flame is definitely going grey...and fast.
Title: Re: High Plains 2020 foals
Post by: dcwolcott on August 19, 2020, 09:22:35 AM
Those are some handsome boys!!!

I always used an outside trainer for the many horses I had shown.  There was one year I had two boys shown, and literally had to choose who and where.  So I had a trainer in the midwest show one young stallion only AMHR, and had a trainer in Florida show the other young stallion in AMHA only.  It was a bit crazy that year, and after that I tried never to show two horses that would compete against each other in the same class in the registries  But that crazy year the boys did me proud and we got a 2nd place in color with a leopard appaloosa boy in AMHA Nationals, with the other boy doing All Stars and scoring very well nationally.  The trainer didn't take him to Nationals like he was contracted to, and wound up taking his own young stallion instead.  Needless to say, Contract broken and money returned with the horse.  LOL

After that, I used a Florida trainer and showed both AMHA & AMHR and did very well with several of my horses.  It does get expensive and you really need to stay on top of how many shows your horse(s) is going to and making sure the trainer is not just promoting their business.  Show fees, travel, health certificates for crossing state lines, etc., can all add up.  Be prudent in doing enough shows to qualify for Nationals, but look at the outcomes of the shows and be critical of your own horse to see if going to Nationals is financially reasonable -- i.e., the horse has a real possibility of getting a National Title and/or placement.

Best of luck!!
Title: Re: High Plains 2020 foals
Post by: elizabeth.conder on August 19, 2020, 12:06:38 PM
Thank you! I have talked to a couple of trainers. One is pretty high profile and she wants him on her showstring. She does 3 local shows and the regional show and then nationals. Problem is she is across the country hahaha.